tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post3680989960293818385..comments2024-03-26T16:19:11.382-07:00Comments on Crossdreamers: The cause of crossdreaming - the alternative slider modelSally Molayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02015510914816971645noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-4868984622153750892018-03-27T15:36:26.337-07:002018-03-27T15:36:26.337-07:00I have just discovered this site, so I'll writ...I have just discovered this site, so I'll write a comment even though the blog entry is relatively old.<br />Actually, I'd gladly write you a personal message, to ask in private about some issues, but I can't find a way to do so. A hint is welcome, however note that I don't have a Facebook account (and I hate it being perceived as almost obligatory... actually, THIS is exactly why I don't have an account), so Facebook messaging is not an option for me.<br />What I find slightly troubling is the idea of the "copulation instinct" - because I know very well that some people have none. So, actually, I'm wondering about a curious issue: is it possible to be both a crossdreamer and an asexual? Actually, asexuality has a lot of shades, gray areas, and I found a link to your site at AVEN forum. I'm an asexual, strongly don't want to have sex personally, however I do have some sexual fantasies. And they have a bit of a crossdreaming edge, though I'm definitely not exactly a crossdreamer because my fantasies are third-person only, I feel distressed if I try to imagine personally having sex. However, I don't feel particularly comfortable writing about it here, also because it will be published under my real name. So maybe I'll join the forum, some contact would be welcome, but first of all - I would be happy if you explored the possible intersections of crossdreaming and asexuality.zewsząd i znikądhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245203192803152065noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-49146438257080705192015-12-06T05:53:07.631-08:002015-12-06T05:53:07.631-08:00@Anynonymous,
Thank you for these links, bringing...@Anynonymous,<br /><br />Thank you for these links, bringing another, fascinating approach to the topic. I will spred these through different channels.Jack Molayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629363646482611722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-78594189714979056932015-12-05T11:18:54.919-08:002015-12-05T11:18:54.919-08:00https://unilantern.wordpress.com/2014/09/23/an-int...https://unilantern.wordpress.com/2014/09/23/an-introduction-to-sex-role-scripts-gendurality-and-gendural-orientation/<br /><br />https://unilantern.wordpress.com/2014/09/24/the-gendurality-landscape-and-sex-role-script-abolition/<br /><br />This is a gender system critical blog that wants to abolish the sex role system fully while retaining peoples right to gender identity (referred to as core sex identity on this blog) and adding a new dimension to gender termed gendural orientation to explain why some people gravitate towards what culture considers masculine or feminine (both, neither ) regardless of their sex or core sex identity. <br /><br />This is an ameture blog but makes a good point. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-1160797041005772002015-04-28T01:52:33.699-07:002015-04-28T01:52:33.699-07:00I'm a guy, but I really dislike my masculine b...I'm a guy, but I really dislike my masculine body. I would rather have a petite and hairless body with less muscle mass. Basically looking girly in every way. <br /><br />Except for my genitals. I want to stay a man but just have feminine characteristics. <br /><br />So what's my body image? Would it be "female"? Would it be a mix of both? Or is that even possible?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-29630735055077055992012-04-27T20:28:48.668-07:002012-04-27T20:28:48.668-07:00Thanks for posting Jack. This is a very insightful...Thanks for posting Jack. This is a very insightful and detailed analysis with a lot of useful information.<br /><br />It is a different (but very helpful) conceptual framework to explore the many facets of the difference between men and women. I also agree with you that, when it comes to men's behaviour and women's behaviour, there is an enormous degree of overlap; so much so that we can't say there is any single activity which is exclusively male or exclusively female (except maybe childbirth).<br /><br />Vivienne.Viviennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06137595207723645418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-60031174553915802002012-02-05T08:05:20.621-08:002012-02-05T08:05:20.621-08:00In that sense, I ultimately do agree with the clas...In that sense, I ultimately do agree with the classic definition of transgenderism,ie.,presence of sex dysphoria.<br />I have never seen any person with cross-gender personalities and having no sex-dysphoria seeking SRS or even identifying as transgender. This certainly also applies for very butch stud women and highly effeminate men such as drag queens.<br />But,I have seen a hell lot of people with sex-dyrphoria but not necessarily presence of cross-gender personalities, seeking transition.This applies to effeminate transmen and butch transwomen.<br />This proves that it is sex-dysphoria which eventually decides the gender identity a person feels inside-ie,male or female or something else such as genderqueer.ShreeHariPrakashannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-12510210041152421172012-02-05T07:56:59.117-08:002012-02-05T07:56:59.117-08:00There is another interesting observation I have ma...There is another interesting observation I have made regarding ftms who are not masculine type.<br />I have visited forums such as Lauras Playground and met several gay and bisexual FTMs who fit exactly my psychological profile.They feel they are men, and their intense feeling of being a man inside made them dysphoric enough to want to seek transitioing. However, the personalities they described well resonated with what I feel.<br />They are soft and sensual, highly emotional, giggly around lovers and friends, and far from any masculine stereotypes and gender expressions.<br />But they consider themselves men, even real men at that.<br />If they can want to change their female genitalia to be a man like me, why should I change into a woman to express these same traits,rather than simply revising or widening the cultural definition of what a man or a woman is?<br />I guess the problem is that certain personality profiles are connected to gender identities by media stereotypes which is necessarily not the case at all for countless men and women.ShreeHariPrakashannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-83197230242449493882012-02-05T07:49:28.963-08:002012-02-05T07:49:28.963-08:00@Jack
"If being a woman in body and soul is w...@Jack<br />"If being a woman in body and soul is what is required for you to be accepted as a woman by society, then transitioning would make sense also for a male to female transgender who does not experience sex dysphoria."<br /><br />There are a couple of problems with your logic here.<br />Like many other male-lesbians and metrosexuals that I know,I don't see my soul telling me there is a female inside.My gender is male, but my way of thinking is feminine. I am more aroused by romantic novels,rather than visual erotica for instance. In general, I prefer a softer luxurious lifestyle than a rough sporty one.<br />But my soul still feels male to the core.I think I am simply a male who is wired to think a bit differently.<br />Much more than feeling a need of transitioning into a woman, I feel the definitions of masculinity and femininity need to be widened, or let us say, a man must be allowed to express a wider range of gender expressions,and so also a woman.This will easily mainstream and legitimize existence of men with feminine personalities and females with masculine personalities and if that happens, they would no longer dream of transitioning.<br /><br />"If I understand you correctly you also suffer from a kind of "dysphoria", but it is connected to not being allowed to express your feminine gender, am I right?"<br /><br />I am not sure if these traits would be called "feminine gender" but I would say they are personalities which for some reason are deemed as socially feminine.<br />I guess it could be simply because most women have these personalities and most men don't have them.<br />That said,I have tried hard to consider transitioning to a female.But the problem is that then, my body image will become contrary to my self-image. This is because despite having these intense psychological traits, my self-image is that of a man, and my transitioning into a woman would not change this self-image.<br /><br />Perhaps, it is for this reason that transsexuals emphasize the presence of sex dysphoria as a prerequisite to seeking SRS,rather than simply presence of traits deemed as socially masculine or feminine.<br />We live in a culture,where men are preventd from expressing traits deemed feminine (for instance connecting romance with sex or being nerdy),and females from expressing traits deemed masculine (for example, working as a manager or CEO).But if the definition of masculinity and femininity are widened, this dysphoria I have will vanish.ShreeHariPrakashannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-37274999392957205352012-02-05T05:04:06.212-08:002012-02-05T05:04:06.212-08:00@ShreeHariPrakashan
From what you tell us here, y...@ShreeHariPrakashan<br /><br />From what you tell us here, you are definitely transgender -- i.e. you are outside the traditional stereotypical gender norms. The term transgender is used as an umbrella term for all types of gender challenging personalities and behaviors.<br /><br />So I guess the question is whether you are a transsexual, in the sense of having a female sex identity instead of a male one.<br /><br />The traditional answer to this question is that you need to suffer from some kind of sex dysphoria, which includes a deep felt alienation from your own body. <br /><br />If you feel at ease with your male body and feel no longing for having a female body, you are not a transsexual according to this way of thinking.<br /><br />Personally, I know the feeling of sex dysphoria all too well, and know that it can be very real indeed. <br /><br />Still, I am in no way sure if this should be considered a prerequisite for transitioning. If being a woman in body and soul is what is required for you to be accepted as a woman by society, then transitioning would make sense also for a male to female transgender who does not experience sex dysphoria.<br /><br />If I understand you correctly you also suffer from a kind of "dysphoria", but it is connected to not being allowed to express your feminine gender, am I right? I am sure that feeling of unhappiness can be just as crippling as the kind of dysphoria described in the literature.Jack Molayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629363646482611722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-87997134133537739962012-02-03T09:43:56.162-08:002012-02-03T09:43:56.162-08:00I have been recently wondering however if I might ...I have been recently wondering however if I might be transgendered. I have been browsing a lot of sites for this.<br />But it seems transgenders hav some other problem, and usually a lot of MTF transgenders dismiss my problem as simply a trivial case of a sensitive male.<br />They say that to be transgender, one needs to have a sense of sex dysphoria, that is, to have an internal image of the opposite sex.<br />This does not ring true to me at all.<br />I used to think most transgenders would transition only to express their cross-gendered personalities.<br />However,this sex-dysphoria and alienation from one's own body is something new to me.<br />Why would someone feel so alienated from his or her own body, Jack Molay?ShreeHariPrakashannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-39602068235022379282012-02-03T09:38:00.336-08:002012-02-03T09:38:00.336-08:00Dear Jack,
Of very big interest to me are the so c...Dear Jack,<br />Of very big interest to me are the so called metrosexuals and male-lesbians.<br />I am a male-lesbian and I can assure you that even without wearing ny female clothes or crossdressing, I find myself being more feminine in personality than many women as well as transwomen.<br />I express this lovely soft femininity when I am at home. I usually wear very bright male dresses that look gorgeous. Of course many non-metro men would wear them too, but my additional attribute is that I have completely shaved off my body, and am totally hairless.<br />I hate body hair and I also don't like looking manly in the traditional sense. This is because it goes against my personality which is hyper-feminine, especially during sexual moments.<br />I am extremely introverted as well, and prefer to remain in my own world full of hypercreativ imaginations. I dislike the world of men, because they are very rough and look ugly, except of course the elite ones.I wouldn't mind sex with a few men though, if they were kind and caring enough.<br />I don't think I need to be a female to express my femininity because I feel I can be as beautiful and soft as a girly girl without wearing girl dresses or actually being a girl.<br />I can also sing melodious songs in a pretty girl's voice,because so long as I look young and demure,rather than a gruffy man, I find it wonderful.<br />Only thing is that I don't want to be a manly man. Other than that, I feel I am 100% XY and this does not disturb me much.<br />One thing of course that comes as a problem is my love of receptive role in sex. I find a lot of women taking resent at that, so, then I go to men for this. Making me bisexual of course lolz.ShreeHariPrakashannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-76125163402911445882011-01-04T09:34:20.794-08:002011-01-04T09:34:20.794-08:00I agree with some others here in that I can't ...I agree with some others here in that I can't really say whether my jinternal body image is male, female, neither, fluid...<br /><br />There is almost more than one personal internal image. I, living in this body, am a man. I feel like there's a girl in here somewhere, though not necessarily "trying to get out." I like the idea of crossdressing in theory, and as a fantasy... but this isn't compatible with the male body image, and so in practice I don't.<br /><br />I don't feel dysphoria (which I think of as a conflict between physical body and body image), so much as a disconnect between that hidden girl and my male body image. She doesn't make me effeminate, though I am certainly way on the non-aggressive and introverted sides.<br /><br />If I had my choice, I would go for a fluid or androgynous body and body image. Shapeshifting would be best, of course :)circlednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-16439929934796578232011-01-02T09:09:14.187-08:002011-01-02T09:09:14.187-08:00Well done Jack!! Fascinating post as always.Well done Jack!! Fascinating post as always.Cheryl Sussexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02512809610979507630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-69316833121005807062010-12-29T02:46:22.954-08:002010-12-29T02:46:22.954-08:00@ Anonymous:
"A non shy man can not love kid...@ Anonymous:<br /><br />"A non shy man can not love kids?"<br /><br />Yes, he can. Most men and women, shy and extrovert, proactive or reactive, love their kids. I did not mean to say otherwise.<br /><br />@Anonymous 2:<br /><br />You say that you identify as a a man but would like to have a female body, having sex as a woman with another woman. You ask if you are crazy. <br /><br />I don't think you are crazy. You express something that is felt by many male to female crossdreamers, an extreme confusion as regards what it means to be a woman and what it means to be a man. You are not alone.<br /><br />@ Sarah<br /><br />On the difference between classic transsexuals and crossdreamers:<br /><br />The CT crowd is going to crucify me for saying this, but I do not think there is a <i>fundamental</i> difference between the alienation M2F transwomen feel from their male bodies and the crossdreamer's dream of having a woman's body. <br /><br />They seem to me to be both expressions of a conflict between the inner body image and the real physical body.<br /><br />Indeed, many transwomen have once experienced erotic dreams of a crossdreamer nature, and many of them started out as crossdressers. <br /><br />For some the incongruity between mind and body becomes unbearable and they need to transition to realize their true self.<br /><br />However, there seems to be huge differences in how this incongruity expresses itself. Some manage to live with it as men, others struggle. In some it is coupled with a strong need to express traditional femininity, in others not. Some hate their male genitalia, others redefine them as female body parts. In some the incongruity is expressed through a strong feeling of being a woman from a very early age on, others come to this realization at a later age. <br /><br />The classic transsexuals hate the idea of being placed in the same category as crossdressers who identify as men, as they believe it undermines their legitimacy as women. They believe they will be perceived as sex crazed perverted men. <br /><br />I think they are wrong. It is quite possible to discuss the similarities between what causes crossdreaming and the transsexual condition, without saying that a transwoman is a man or a crossdreamer is a woman.<br /><br />For me it is totally clear that a male bodied person who feel so alienated from her male body that she wants to become a woman, is a woman. But I do not buy the idea that it is what is between her legs that determines whether she is a man or a woman.<br /><br />Nor do i believe that the presence or absence of erotically charged cross-sexual dreams determines whether you are a woman or not. Such dreams may simply be an expression of a suppressed female identity.<br /><br />Whether <i>you</i> are truly a man or a woman is not for me to decide. But according to the model I have presented here you do have a female body image.Jack Molayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629363646482611722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-84141160246324981982010-12-29T02:11:42.537-08:002010-12-29T02:11:42.537-08:00@Robyn
"The problem with having a fixed, off...@Robyn<br /><br />"The problem with having a fixed, official tipping point is the danger of men not reaching the tipping point but think they are women and men over the tipping point and are now women but don't want to be..."<br /><br />You are absolutely right! I have probably expressed myself clumsily or tried to put to much content into one blog post. <br /><br />But basically my argument is that the tipping point model does not explain why some people identify as women and some as men (keeping in mind that some may repress their true gender identity).<br /><br />Hence I also agree with you that it is impossible to put up a list of psychological attributes that would cover the complexity of gender identity, and that could be used to determine when someone has reached the tipping point. <br /><br />This is why I believe there must be something else -- a factor "X" (or "Y" in the case of F2Ms :-) -- that is not explained by cultural and stereotypical psychological gender traits and that causes many -- but not necessarily all -- transgender conditions.<br /><br />You call the factor X the "total image of oneself". This reminds me of Jung who called the totality of a human being's psyche "the Self". He argued that none of us are conscious of all the psychological content of "the Self", but it will nevertheless steer us in a certain direction. There is a hidden core i us that needs to be realized in real life.<br /><br />I am starting to believe that this total self has a basic biological core.<br /><br />As for the TG fiction stories "where a man is magically changed into a woman without his knowledge or consent". I believe these stories express some kind of inborn female identity. The story is a day dream where this inborn identity is allowed to express herself. The fact that the protagonist finds it so hard to cope as a woman, only demonstrates that there is no one to one relationship between stereotypical gender expressions and the core identity. The fantasy is an attempt at reconciling theses opposites.Jack Molayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629363646482611722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-64961615644686172222010-12-29T01:49:32.671-08:002010-12-29T01:49:32.671-08:00@ Claire,
"..but the conclusion that there m...@ Claire,<br /><br />"..but the conclusion that there must indeed be one (or a few) factors that are necessary for a man or a woman to start dreaming about being the 'other' doesn't seem to follow."<br /><br />I am not sure about this, but my argument is based on the observation that there is no clear correlation by what our culture considers "masculine" and "feminine" traits and perceived gender identity. <br /><br />This is the exact opposite conclusion to -- for instance -- the HBS transwomen, who seem to believe that the way you hold your handbag has a biological basis, or the "transkids" who believe gender identity equals sexual orientation. <br /><br />But if gender identity is not about psychological traits or about sexual orientation, then what is it? <br /><br />What is this factor X that makes biological males dream of having a woman's body and female to male crossdreamers fantasize about having a penis?<br /><br />If you take "gender" and "sexual orientation" out of "gender identity", what remains? <br /><br />To me it seems that the answer is "body identity". The core of the crossdreamer as well as the transsexual condition is a strong biological trait (or traits) that expresses itself through the internal body image and -- maybe -- the copulation instinct.<br /><br />Ironically, I end up with a conclusion very similar to the one of the "classic transsexuals", who also insist that their condition is biological.<br /><br />You are right in pointing out that this does not necessarily mean that we are talking about a small number of factors. For all I know, the internal body image and the copulation instinct may be caused by a complex array of genetic, protein based and hormonal triggers. Still,compared to the complexity of social and cultural gender traits these seem to be pretty basic.<br /><br />I picture this as a kind of basic core condition that serves as a kind of psychological crystallizing point which may express itself in different ways under different cultural conditions. For instance: a biological male with a female body image, could have taken the role of a normal, proactive, balanced woman if the surrounding culture allowed it. Instead the repression of his inner "womaness" channels his dreams and desires into stereotypical dreams of being the submissive sissy. This is the only way s/he manages to reconcile a harsh outer reality with the inner reality.Jack Molayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629363646482611722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-29769097326384111752010-12-24T22:25:22.472-08:002010-12-24T22:25:22.472-08:00I am a man
I see myself like a man (I would like ...I am a man<br /><br />I see myself like a man (I would like to have a pussy but not particulary to have a women's life and if I could be a real woman I am not even sure I would agree)<br /><br />I like to be penetrate (I can also penetrate but I found it more or less boring physicaly and furstrating mentaly and definitly not exciting when I am not in love). <br /><br />I am attracted by girls and not by men. I fall in love with women. <br /><br />I am rather analytic, not shy and agressive in words (but not in physical fights though because I don't want to damage my body and don't feel that I need to fight to express myself)<br /><br />So I want to live as a man, look like a man and have a pussy to be able to get dicks in a very sensitive hole and so much more pleasure than with my asshole. I don't want large breats as it is rather cumbersome and useless in everyday life. A very small breast would be great just too look more feminine once naked !<br /><br />But the problem is that it would kill my love life as no women would want a man with a pussy !<br /><br />So I would have no loving life and a great sexual life with men.<br /><br />Am i crazy ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-90793956128529546592010-12-24T21:33:57.633-08:002010-12-24T21:33:57.633-08:00I like you post but don't have the patience to...I like you post but don't have the patience to read all in details despite the fact I am AG.<br /><br />How do you find the patience to talk non stop about the same topic ?!!<br /><br />I can not concentrate that much !<br /><br />A comment = why do you tell that "there are shy me... who love kids". Why do they gave to be shy ? A non shy man can nit love kids ? It seems that you fell into the trap of gender roles by telling that !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-25756745078956178502010-12-24T10:05:43.815-08:002010-12-24T10:05:43.815-08:00Robyn P,
"That attribute is one's total i...Robyn P,<br />"That attribute is one's total image of their self. If one's image is that of a woman, then they are a woman or if their image is that of a man, then they are a man NO MATTER WHAT ANY OTHER ATTRIBUTES ARE. "<br /><br />That is a narrow perception not because it is wrong but because it averts many aspects of TRANSGENDERISM and only explains what is TRANSSEXUALISM. <br />But do remember we are talking of transgenderism rather than its extreme case of transsexualism.<br />We must know the biological reasons behind why some males feel male alright but deep inside want to feel like women.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-79018855702276761922010-12-24T09:44:20.009-08:002010-12-24T09:44:20.009-08:00Jack,
There are two fundamental flaws with the &q...Jack,<br /><br />There are two fundamental flaws with the "tipping point".<br /><br />First, let's say there is a "tipping point" based on values of various attributes as you propose and once a man crosses the "tipping point", he is now a woman... What happens when a man crosses the tipping point because he has enough attributes to be a woman BUT has no desire to be a woman because he likes being a man? This is a common storyline for many fiction stories where a man is magically changed into a woman without his knowledge or consent. The rest of the story has the hero, now heroine, struggle to be the woman he now is even though he doesn't want to be. You propose the possibility of a man becoming a woman not because he wants to, but because he has all the attributes to be a woman and not a man. <br /><br />Conversely, what if a man has very few or zero of the attributes needed to go past the tipping point (a "manly" man) but knows deep down inside himself that he is a woman? Is anyone going to say to this man, "Excuse me, <i>Sir</i>, but you need a reality check because you are not even close to the 'tipping point'."? No, I don't think so... Some people might help him move closer to the tipping point by providing hormones, etc. because he is so rigid in his belief. In this case, the idea of a "tipping point" comprised of multiple attributes is trashed.<br /><br />In order to accomodate the entire spectrum of people using your idea, in the end there is only one attribute that is meaningful. That attribute is one's total image of their self. If one's image is that of a woman, then they are a woman or if their image is that of a man, then they are a man NO MATTER WHAT ANY OTHER ATTRIBUTES ARE. <br /><br />The second flaw in your idea is the classification of attributes. You may have an adequate list but if there is to be a "tipping point", then it has to be agreed upon by everyone. Who determines what attributes are considered and their weight in determining the "tipping point"? Scientists? Psychologists? Anthropologists? Government? College Professors? The gender community? The general public? Or does each person set their own "tipping point"?<br /><br />The problem with having a fixed, official tipping point is the danger of men not reaching the tipping point but think they are women and men over the tipping point and are now women but don't want to be...<br /><br />RobynRobyn Phttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00655968146251274730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-48353003058595168102010-12-21T06:02:25.389-08:002010-12-21T06:02:25.389-08:00Nice post Jack, I just have a question;
With the ...Nice post Jack, I just have a question;<br /><br />With the body image characteristic, or "slot", my understanding of our perceived difference with "classic" transsexuals is that they feel they are already women inside and want to bring their external body into alignment with who they are inside already, whereas we (crossdreamers) don't necessarily feel we are women (or specifically feel like we are women inside), but have a massive, unshakeable desire to attain that female form, and possibly (hopefully) then also start to feel female inside as a result.<br /><br />Because I don't feel female inside, I find it hard to feel disgust with or disconnection from with my male body, although I feel a lot of disappointment and frustration that I can't get the body I actually want and that I can't "switch off" that want either.<br /><br />So to summarise, if I don't specifically feel female in my head, does that mean your model would have me choosing the "male" body image component? Or would I still be choosing the "female" body image because that's all I really want?Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14806332862527107509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-47177484411026477692010-12-20T19:44:01.655-08:002010-12-20T19:44:01.655-08:00Jack,
I don't think you may be onto something...Jack,<br /><br />I don't think you may be onto something, I know you ARE onto something. When I worked on the taxonomy series, I was hoping someone would come along and improve on it. It seems as though we are looking at the same end, but with different roads. While I lean on the Benjamin scale as the core of the theory, your approach is on individual characteristics. As much as I like my own work, I really like what you propose here.<br /><br />After all, the eventual goal of this is for us to know where we sit in the landscape. Having a dot on the map relieves much confusion, methinks. Having a collection of different types of maps doesn't hurt either. Great work.<br /><br />SarahSarah Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13018597739320720216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-77504038238013356162010-12-20T13:55:08.977-08:002010-12-20T13:55:08.977-08:00Wonderful post. Your analysis is great and tremen...Wonderful post. Your analysis is great and tremendously clear but the conclusion that there must indeed be one (or a few) factors that are necessary for a man or a woman to start dreaming about being the "other" doesn't seem to follow. Do I need to re-read some earlier posts?Claire L Hallamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01535569086150530774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-33681507766456681162010-12-20T10:35:07.421-08:002010-12-20T10:35:07.421-08:00Jack,
This is BRILLIANT!
Really, if I was on the...Jack,<br /><br />This is BRILLIANT!<br /><br />Really, if I was on the panel I'd vote to award you a Nobel Prize!<br /><br />It's elegant, yet simple, and sensible and in its own way beautiful; all things that nature tends to be.<br /><br />All you need now is a computer program that you can feed every variable that you can think into, and several thousand random actual people to compare what the computer spits out to.<br /><br />By Jove I think he's got it!Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12533555060918801821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-71169075120460752582010-12-20T10:12:08.335-08:002010-12-20T10:12:08.335-08:00"It does not matter if a woman have "mas..."It does not matter if a woman have "masculine interests", a great analytical capability and a strong, powerful personality. She will still, more likely than not, have a feminine gender identity and internal body image. She identifies as a woman."<br /><br />What I can say is that the same applies to a feminine male who is not a crossdreamer.I have some stereotypical masculine abilities like analytical skills, aggressiveness and so on. However, I still feel feminine and gender fluid most of the time. There have indeed been moments when I felt I would be rather better off as a female though I did not have any internal image of female body.<br />That was largely because I wanted to play feminine role in sex, or wised to be treated as delicate feminine in public. Hoever, I still have a male identity and don't get urge to crossdress. I am metrosexual.<br />I don't think body image is necessarily the most essential factor for a TG to say he or she has gender dysphoria, though it is one of them.<br />We essentially judge ourselves based on what we see around us. If I found a lot of boys who did not play rough games or were not domineering type, I would never have considered myself gender fluid.Jamesnoreply@blogger.com