tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post3565941731247399172..comments2024-03-26T16:19:11.382-07:00Comments on Crossdreamers: Purple SilenceSally Molayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02015510914816971645noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-16121452021127330992011-02-14T23:50:55.863-08:002011-02-14T23:50:55.863-08:00Purple has made some comments to comments made to ...Purple has made some comments to comments made to this post over at her own blog: http://purplespeaks.wordpress.com/2011/02/13/jacks-guests/Jack Molayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629363646482611722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-18148633089066509832011-02-08T08:09:43.653-08:002011-02-08T08:09:43.653-08:00I would encourage you not to waste your energy deb...I would encourage you not to waste your energy debating someone like purple. I feel her ego is very fragile and feels complete only when attacking others.<br /><br />You would serve yourself and the ones you love more by working on improving yourself, spiritually, emotionally, mentally and physically.<br /><br />Purple does more harm than good and I would encourage you and others to just ignore her.Zoe Suzannahttp://becomingzoe.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-73749294479980138512011-02-05T07:45:37.866-08:002011-02-05T07:45:37.866-08:00This is very timely Jack. After reading yr tweet,...This is very timely Jack. After reading yr tweet, I got into an online shootout with Evangalina Carters. Predictably, she completely dismissed my words in a hateful and mean spirited fashion.<br /><br />There is also Ashley Love:<br /><br />http://transformingmedia.blogspot.com/<br /><br />She is full of daggers for transgendered people:<br /><br />“If a man gets satisfaction putting on a dress and using the woman’s restroom, who am I to judge him? I may not feel safe if I was in that bathroom when he was in there, but whatever strokes one’s boat, I think, or maybe he should use the man’s bathroom, just to be respectful. So some of my trans feminist friends plead not to include the transvestites in our mission, but would we really want to start a war with transvestite men just because we have nothing in common with them?”<br /><br />and this...<br /><br />“I’m not one of those conservative TS women who is phobic of CDs and TVs because of the theory that they are heterosexual or homosexual MEN who have a sexual fetish, want attention and invade TS space…”<br /><br />and this...<br /><br />“Humans have a instinct about them, a sixth sense, they internally register what someone’s gender essence is when they meet them. I will not blame the slow advancement of transsexual women on the men who like to dress up for what ever reason (but will blame it partly on the refusal of some trans gatekeeper’s refusal to initiate internal conversations about this controversial topic in our community that many TS women want to talk about!), and then say they are transsexual, which may confuse society’s education of the entire trans community, which includes transvestites. They can express themselves however they want, and people should just let them do what ever pleases them. But I do believe in DIFFERENT, BUT EQUAL."<br /><br />So what this amounts to is: 1) CDs are men in dresses 2) TVs are men in dresses, and 3) late-transitioners are just CDs or TVs that have conditioned themselves past the point of no return.<br /><br />And she worries about sharing the bathroom with any of the above…<br /><br />Bitch...Bitterness Barbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15080082175885943270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-31115115460995156292011-02-04T23:28:34.235-08:002011-02-04T23:28:34.235-08:00Anne--I did some research, first at Kathryn's ...Anne--I did some research, first at Kathryn's blog, and then at the list of blogs she follows--and discovered that I was right in guessing that much of Purple Girl's attack has more to do with her personality than the TS community's views. I mean, at one point, she speculates that TGs are part of a Freemason/Illuminati conspiracy to control TS's...so.....yeah.....<br /><br />In other news, Purple Girl is now the unrequited love of my life. She is my everything.Vickiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615020202241809339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-26035767680017591052011-02-04T21:21:07.444-08:002011-02-04T21:21:07.444-08:00Hi Jack,
Nice post. Long time no visit. Happily...Hi Jack,<br /><br />Nice post. Long time no visit. Happily I find your posts, and interesting POV's, quite refreshing and objective in their analysis of some very complex issues.<br /><br />True to form you have done a great job in high lighting our prospective differences. And while you and I are different, we can easily find wide areas of agreement, by simply recognizing, acknowledging and carefully examining our differences.<br /><br />As a very late arrival to this sometime very heated war of words, I can assure you that I have been attacked and pilloried by both sides and that MOST obnoxious, belligerent and down right TYRANICAL MIDDLE.<br /><br />I mean if I were a well adjusted and happy heterosexual cross dresser/dreamer, I think that I too would be offended by the PC demands of the GAYS in their dominance of the LGBTQITQ Agenda.<br /><br />In answer to Vickie's question..."Is Purple's blog indicative of the whole TS community's attitude?" The answer is NO. You are correct in your assumption that Purple's attitude is her's alone. although sadly, there are a few others, who do share her extremist, hateful views.<br /><br />Kathryn Martin offers a pretty fair analysis of why there exists such a high level of hostiity.<br /><br />I consider it to be simple bone headed ego. You can find a fair example of what happens when the anger boils over here, (http://commontericommentary.blogspot.com/2011/01/non-op-transsexuals.html). And frankly that really was relatively mild.Annehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02696670919817140802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-50383508947580249532011-02-04T10:58:55.943-08:002011-02-04T10:58:55.943-08:00This is quite funny actually. A whole transgender ...This is quite funny actually. A whole transgender subgroup humiliating a whole majority of transgenders and disregarding their true gender fluidity by calling them as perverted or fetishistic men.<br />This seems to be a worse form of discrimination than that faced by us from the mainstream cis-gendered community.<br />Gender historically has never been a binary issue unlike that created by the west. You can indeed have a mixture of male and female traits in you and not be an outright transsexual woman, but be simply transgendered. Which is fine and totally normal natural variation.<br /><br />I also think the terminology of "man" is inappropriate. Categorizing feminine and gender fluid males as "man" does not sound quite right because historically, only masculine males were men.Jamesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-18512270450118039912011-02-04T01:52:13.138-08:002011-02-04T01:52:13.138-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Cheryl Sussexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02512809610979507630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-26872276352115197572011-02-04T01:27:08.305-08:002011-02-04T01:27:08.305-08:00It is very sad that out there there is a whole tra...It is very sad that out there there is a whole transgender sub group obsessed with telling others, who don't think they same way as they do, that they are in the wrong. They will say that AGP does not exist simply because they have never experienced it themselves. If anyone says hey I'm AGP they are branded. They are told that they have another deep routed problem nothing to do with any transgendered issues they imagine they have. A simple fetish which has been magnified together with a TS wanabee delusion desire. I don't understand why these people who are supposed to be happy with their transition simply move on and get on with their lives. Why make a career out of being a transsexual? After all if they don't relate in any way to AGP why on earth do they seek out and try and destroy others who are simply trying to find their own peace. <br /><br />Funny how I identify as AGP but don't wear any 'fetish' clothing. I could stand up and easily say I'm a classic transsexual and people would believe me from the way I present myself. Just look at my pics. Perhaps I should, get SRS and then come out as an AGP transitioner. <br /><br />I'm very interested in the 'Exotic becomes erotic' notion where we desire something so much but it is beyond our ability to possess or experience so the only outlet is via sexual fantasy to compensate. In many ways I feel stuck in this realm unable to move beyond this stage.<br /><br />Good reply by the way Jack, good post too. Keep it up.Cheryl Sussexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02512809610979507630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-80641403716728639552011-02-04T01:03:07.034-08:002011-02-04T01:03:07.034-08:00"Transsexual separatist group, you know, the ..."Transsexual separatist group, you know, the one arguing that crossdressers and crossdreamers have nothing in common with them, being real women."<br /><br />They would have you believe that they are 'realer' than real women too. <br /><br />The transgendered world is very much based upon looks being the key to acceptance. If you transition and you look like a supermodel then you'll have instant acceptance by the public. Regardless of your motivations for transition. If you look like Les Dawson in a frock then no matter how 'real' you say you are you will not be accepted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-84843946622734485622011-02-03T15:44:31.139-08:002011-02-03T15:44:31.139-08:00You know, gender is not the only thing that people...You know, gender is not the only thing that people think can be "fixed" with surgery because it's a "defect". There are many in the deaf community that hate people that get cochlear implants (because they destroy nerves, and there's nothing wrong with learning ASL, it's the 2nd largest used language).<br /><br />I don't understand the hate, and the idea that there are true women in male bodies. I can understand being of female mind, but that doesn't make your body a defect.<br /><br />There's also no reason to hate people like us, there's categories for everyone, and you don't see us attacking transsexuals. Just stop the H8!tg_captionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15015206450712314680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-40362675759353770732011-02-03T14:57:45.846-08:002011-02-03T14:57:45.846-08:00Not the entire TS community is in arms over the di...Not the entire TS community is in arms over the distinction between TS and Crossdressers and others along the transgendered line of thought. There is in my view a distinction because transsexuals experience themselves as being in a body that is defective because of the physical sex and the experience of being of a gender not congruent with their physical outward appearance. <br /><br />The dispute arose because some felt that their transsexual narrative was drowned out by the hype of the inclusiveness of the movement towards a broader now "transgendered" agenda which included a perceived spectrum ranging from each gender pole that is female and male.<br /><br />It is very difficult for transsexuals to identify with concepts such as autogynephilia because the content of this hypothesis is not reflective of who they are. <br /><br />I wrote at my blog "The Trans Box" this:<br /><br />It is very interesting that we really have very little hard science that would permit the identification of any of these afflictions. In my attempts to gain understanding of the differences between the Transsexual and Transgender condition I believe that the following observations are important: There are those who experience a feminine aspect of their person but have no congruency issues. They may be motivated by a whole variety of triggers to represent as a woman. Secondly, there are those who experience incongruency between their inner configuration and their body as a result of a genetic or physiological accident. They must have surgery to correct this defect.<br /><br />While the former is defined by the persons gender experience, the latter is defined by physical characteristics.<br /><br />While in the former case gender confusion, if you will, is the primary consideration to understand the person, in the latter the is no gender confusion and achieving congruency between inner configuration and body is. What makes this hard to grasp is that in both cases secondary consequences, that is dysphoria tends to mask the primary aspects. It is for this reason, that I believe the two are often mistaken to be the same. <br /><br />Most transsexuals have no venomous or rejection agenda at all. The issue for all transsexuals is that it is politcally we need to pursue somewhat different goals and in that the transgendered proponents tend to be overly inclusive and thereby impacting the transsexual narrative.Kathryn Dumkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16054997856180869508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-63082474950775182422011-02-03T13:52:07.478-08:002011-02-03T13:52:07.478-08:00Sadly, this was how I was introduced to a more def...Sadly, this was how I was introduced to a more definitive understanding of my sexuality. I read the term 'Autogynephilia' and was like "whoa, thats what I am! Yay!" <br /><br />A few google searches later and I was learning that I'm not a transexual, not 'transgendered' and that I'm actually a good-for-nothing pervert that was invented in order to tear down the transexual community. <br /><br />Page after page, I couldn't believe that anyone could have so much distaste for people like us. Especially these people! I mean, you would think that of all people that could empathize, it would be transexuals, but i digress...<br /><br />Its all just irritating, especially if you're like me and you think that you may actually be transexual, in addition to crossdreaming/autogynephilia,<br /><br />It would be nice if these people focused on the right target.Reneehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03498336225773993531noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-51544498333702387062011-02-03T08:01:33.774-08:002011-02-03T08:01:33.774-08:00Wow. Very fascinating...so far, I've only bee...Wow. Very fascinating...so far, I've only been aware of this conflict between TS and TG through reading your blog. I had no idea someone was so incredibly venomous over this! <br /><br />Is Purple's blog indicative of the whole TS community's attitude? I ask because, the impression I'm getting is that her ugliness seems more of personality trait than anything else. She seems like someone who really wants an enemy, and she's created this straw-man version of the TG community to serve as one.<br /><br />She seems really defensive about how she and hers are "Real Women," while we're a bunch a pathetic sicko fetishists. I can empathize, actually. In trying to wrap my mind around this condition, I felt a strong desire to see it as an obscure "gender variation," and not "just a fetish." In the end, I've decided that perhaps it is a fetish--the FUCKING AWESOMEST FETISH EVER!<br /><br />This past month, I decided to reveal this secret side of myself to my closest friends, most of whom happen to be women. I explained to them what my feelings were, I showed them my blog, and I answered their questions. The response was universally positive, and not in a "understanding" way, but in a "that is really cool!" way. Granted, these were people who loved me to begin with, so that's not a random sample. But, none of them called me "filthy" like Purple does.<br /><br />Jack, you're totally right to call her out on the rape allegation. Comparing something to rape, is much like comparing any opponent to Hitler. It's juvenile and narcissistic. I've known and worked with rape victims; no one who had ever experienced being raped, would compare anything so trivial to rape.<br /><br />I'll conclude by saying that yes, Purple is a Real Woman in ways that I am not; but then again, so are Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann.Vickiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02615020202241809339noreply@blogger.com