tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post8342920968662380876..comments2024-03-26T16:19:11.382-07:00Comments on Crossdreamers: Yes, Ernest Hemingway was TransgenderSally Molayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02015510914816971645noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-15506652271894216852021-04-16T06:36:12.190-07:002021-04-16T06:36:12.190-07:00@Zagria We have to do something about that Wikpedi...@Zagria We have to do something about that Wikpedia entry. I am looking into the Norwegian Wachowski entry right now. It isn't equally bad, but...Jack Molayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629363646482611722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-18595927142848409062021-04-16T06:33:52.572-07:002021-04-16T06:33:52.572-07:00"I don't know if it's ethical to decl..."I don't know if it's ethical to declare someone transgender if they haven't told you/never came out."<br /><br />As Emma points out: It would be impossible to write the history of transgender people and transgender culture if we could not reflect on the transgender nature of dead people. And we need that history, because it gives us insight into alternative ways of being trans. It also teaches us about how trans people have been oppressed, and how trans people have reacted to that oppression. Finally, the existence of trans people in all cultures and all epochs proves that being trans is not a fashion or caused by trans propaganda.Jack Molayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629363646482611722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-80070226571878871432021-04-08T05:28:44.759-07:002021-04-08T05:28:44.759-07:00As per your snide comment re pronouns, I would lik...As per your snide comment re pronouns, I would like to point out that Gloria never made a public statement re preference. Gloria was a life long oscillator, even after surgery with Dr Biber. Gloria in male mode remarried wife #4 two years later.<br /><br />It is common enough that a trans woman has been a husband and father before transition. However can you name another such who did so FOUR(4) times. Gloria had 8 children. Brother Patrick had only 2 wives and 1 child; brother Jack 2 wives and 3 children. If fatherhood is the measure, Gloria was more man than her two brothers.<br /><br />When reading of an oscillator, the reader can easily become confused as to whether the person was in male mode or female mode in a particular incident. I use 'he' or 'she' to so indicate.<br /><br />If you want an account using female pronouns throughout, may I suggest the Wikipedia entry called "Gregory Hemingway" - yes, really!<br /><br />The best books on Gloria are Paul Henrickson's Hemingway's Boat, and John Hemingway's Strange Tribe.Zagriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15124379637664963835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-59849067450267994702021-04-07T07:19:32.299-07:002021-04-07T07:19:32.299-07:00Hi Velma, I see that EH was born in 1899 which was...Hi Velma, I see that EH was born in 1899 which was about the same time as my grandfather. We have photos of him in dresses which — evidently — was common for babies and toddlers back then. I want to see the Burns documentary and will look to see how EH's photos compare with my grandfathers. <br /><br />I agree with you about the possibility of psychological compensation. I never (in my opinion) exhibited very macho behaviors but I often wondered how well I was fitting in with men friends and colleagues. I suspect that is a common characteristic of pre-transition trans people. Emma Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10531144162442571276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-66114608429477161902021-04-06T12:18:26.402-07:002021-04-06T12:18:26.402-07:00Coincidentally....
Last night (04-05-2021) there w...Coincidentally....<br />Last night (04-05-2021) there was a one hour portion of Ken Burns multi-part docu-series on Hemingway. <br />There were several photos of Hemingway and his sister, both dressed as female children, as well as both dressed as male children.<br />Given all the 'macho' posturing displayed by E.H., it is to wonder how much of such behavior is 'psychological compensation' from his childhood.<br />VelmaVelmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02145613265114657097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-40164476162198821342021-04-06T10:52:32.728-07:002021-04-06T10:52:32.728-07:00interestingly Hemingway's son Gregory transiti...interestingly Hemingway's son Gregory transitioned and became Gloria. She went through phases and then reverted to male at some point to marry someone. One wonders about genetic predisposition towards gender variance herejoanna Santoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16722222181799879120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-67587266037912238802021-04-06T07:43:33.021-07:002021-04-06T07:43:33.021-07:00"I don't know if it's ethical to decl..."I don't know if it's ethical to declare someone transgender if they haven't told you/never came out."<br /><br />Hemingway is a historical figure. I really don't see any issue with considering anything about him as with anyone in our past. Emma Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10531144162442571276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-87542274125117111122021-04-06T07:20:43.606-07:002021-04-06T07:20:43.606-07:00I don't know if it's ethical to declare so...I don't know if it's ethical to declare someone transgender if they haven't told you/never came out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-61045060725856974892021-04-05T22:43:24.180-07:002021-04-05T22:43:24.180-07:00Man's man Ernest Hemingway, was first and fore...Man's man Ernest Hemingway, was first and foremost a creative, whose medium was writing. As most creatives then and now, personal boundaries of gender do not apply as gender is only in the deep recesses of ones mind, that can be pulled out, tried on, and paraded within their evolving creativity.<br />Angel AmoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2472400923228993687.post-62115415808506412682021-04-05T21:33:25.322-07:002021-04-05T21:33:25.322-07:00Fascinating, Jack. That clearly took a lot of effo...Fascinating, Jack. That clearly took a lot of effort on your part. Thank you!Emma Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10531144162442571276noreply@blogger.com